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NEVADAN AT WORK: BRIAN
CRUDEN, President, Insurcorp
Insurance agency's
boss keeps policy of honesty in keeping clients covered
By JOHN G. EDWARDS
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Brian Cruden offers businessmen a beacon to guide them through the
hurricane of health insurance cost increases.
As
president of Insurcorp, the 43-year-old insurance
executive advises businesses of various sizes and how best to provide
affordable health insurance to their employees. He and his partner, Steve Pollott, oversee a staff of 24 workers and consultants,
including the first insurance executive for whom Cruden
worked.
He sees
more increases in health insurance coming, but he also believes the soaring
price of health care coverage will plateau.
Question: What is the secret of your
success?
Answer: Stay focused. Be honest. Never
give up. I'm not a quitter.
Question: When did you become interested in
business?
Answer: Even from my early days, I was
always focused on business. It was not unusual for me to be holding down three
jobs when I was 15 years old. Boxing groceries at the Boulevard Market, which
old
Right
after high school, I started with First National Bank of
Question: Who was that?
Answer: It's Allen Vogel Insurance
Agency. Allen has since retired and now works part-time as one of my agents. It
just pleases me to no end that the person who was responsible for getting me
started in the business is now (working) with me and my company.
Right
after working with him, I went to work for Sierra Health Services as vice
president of marketing and sales and developed the first insurance PPO
(preferred provider organization) product for them in the 1980s. (A PPO is a
health plan with a provider network of contracted physicians and hospitals but
may offer reduced benefits to people using providers outside of the network.)
I was
developing HMOs (health maintenance organizations) and PPOs.
I actually wrote and designed many of the PPO plan designs that you see today.
I was
responsible with my team for developing a product for Sierra Health Services to
offer the product to
Question: Before that what kind of health
insurance did people have?
Answer: Just indemnity insurance back in
the late '70s, early '80s. HMOs were the first managed-care type of product. It
was basically a deductible insurance co-pay type platform. You paid a
deductible up front, and, after that, you and the insurance company shared the
expense.
Health
Plan of Nevada (an insurance service of Sierra Health) was actually the first
HMO in
Question: Then, you set up your own
business.
Answer: We saw a void in
Question: What types of programs do you
provide?
Answer: Group medical, dental, vision and
life insurance products to employers. We represent every insurance company
licensed to do business in the state of
Question: Who are some of your clients?
Answer: Terrible Herbst
Gaming, all of the Wolfgang Puck restaurant operations, Las Vegas Police
Protective Association (civilian employees), Associated Builders and
Contractors, just to mention a few. The Walters Group. Cirque du Soleil.
Question: How much are health insurance
costs increasing?
Answer: Health insurance costs have gone
up tremendously. National averages are averaging anywhere from 14 percent to 20
percent per year for the last five years. We're seeing some employers having in
excess of 20 percent of the entire gross profits going to employee benefits,
which is a staggering number.
The
physicians are having to deal with increased malpractice costs, physicians as
well as hospitals and health centers. That cost is now passed on by the
insurance company to the employer, which then in turn is passed on to the
employee.
The first
thing we tell employers is you've got to get your employees involved. They've
got to understand why premiums are going up. What they can do to reduce their
own costs.
Prescription
costs right now are resulting in almost 35 percent to 40 percent of the entire
cost of health care to the consumer. Ask your physician: Is there a generic
prescription in place of the brand name you've been giving me? If everybody did
that, it would start bringing the cost down or at least to a manageable level.
Question: Will health insurance costs
continue going up?
Answer: I see it continuing for a while.
There is not a limit on the amount of money that can be charged for a certain
service. There's no limit on what can be charged for insurance. As a result,
the costs will continue to grow until we plateau.
Small
employers in particular are struggling in just offering basic levels of
benefits. As a result, a lot of them are joining associations in hope that an
association plan might be more affordable, but normally that's not the case.
Question: Do you think the federal
government is going to get more involved in health care insurance, or will the
government let the marketplace make the decisions?
Answer: The last eight years, even in the
I think
the big problem right now is buying individual insurance. A lot of products out
there don't provide insurance for pre-existing conditions. It can be double or
triple what you would pay through an employer group policy. If I don't qualify,
I'm left out.
We have a
number of large employers who before offered a rich, freedom-of-choice health
program and now, as a result of rising health care, have resorted back to entry
level HMO products. (They say) if you want a freedom-of-choice product, then
I'm going to pass that increased cost on to you.
Question: What could stop continued
escalation of health insurance prices?
Answer: With group insurance in general,
the bigger the pool, the lesser the risk. As a result, the more insurance
companies can find ways to put people into these insurance pools, there's more
to spread around and that, as a result, may cause a plateau (in cost
increases).
If an
insurance company can come up with a product that's more affordable to
employers, the more employers can purchase that, the more funds in that pool
(and), as a result, the risk will be less.